iPhone Jailbreaking Could Crash Cellphone Towers, Apple Claims
Nice to see that the real reason Apple wanted MS to drop small inaccuracies was so they could come back in the spotlight to make the most ludicrous claims ever.
TL;DR: Apple is claiming that people who jailbrake an iphone will turn around and use the iphone to hack celltowers, and are trying to ban Iphone jailbraking under 'national security'.
Apple is claiming that people who jailbrake an iphone will turn around and use the iphone to hack celltowers
That's not what they're claiming...
From the article:
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The company’s filing explained that jailbreaking could allow hackers to altering the iPhone’s BBP — the “baseband processor” software, which enables a connection to cell phone towers.
And they very well could be correct. It's my understanding that alot of the free apps made for jailbroken phones basically come from torrent sites. The files could be hidden with any sort of code and the user would never know...
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1. Hacking software requires far more powerful machines then an iphone.
2. Any cell phone can access the cell tower, given it is, I dunno, connecting to it to access data and receive phone calls?
It takes alot of power to bypass security systems. You wouldn't be able to on an Iphone.
And yes, they are saying that jailbroken iphones could hack cell phone towers.
Seriously, your response reminds me of all the craziness over people thinking PS2's could be able to launch nuclear weapons. Your response made it clear you don't understand how encryption works or how to break it. I hope you don't get mad, but it's not as simple as grabbing any device and hacking in like the movie Wargames.
While I appreciate you turning this into a personal attack against me and insulting my intelligence/knowledge, I think you misunderstood what I was saying...
All I'm saying is that a jailbroken iPhone is able to install apps made by any and every one... and these apps could very well have all sorts of malicious code hidden within... What the code could execute, I don't know... I'm not a hacker... I imagine it could be anything from attempting to wreak havoc on the cell towers/network, or steal info from your phone... Either way, I'm pretty sure the engineers at Apple and AT&T have a pretty good understanding of the possibilities, and wouldn't throw something like this out there if was completely unfeasible... Regardless of the fact that they don't want people jailbreaking the phones...
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While I appreciate you turning this into a personal attack against me and insulting my intelligence/knowledge, I think you misunderstood what I was saying...
All I'm saying is that a jailbroken iPhone is able to install apps made by any and every one... and these apps could very well have all sorts of malicious code hidden within... What the code could execute, I don't know... I'm not a hacker... I imagine it could be anything from attempting to wreak havoc on the cell towers/network, or steal info from your phone... Either way, I'm pretty sure the engineers at Apple and AT&T have a pretty good understanding of the possibilities, and wouldn't throw something like this out there if was completely unfeasible... Regardless of the fact that they don't want people jailbreaking the phones...
I'm not trying to insult your intelligence. It's simply not as easy as picking up a cell phone and hacking a tower. It's not that easy with a larger pc.
If it was that easy, cell phones would go down every 5 seconds.
Here's a way to tell it isn't that easy: Go to your router. Check how many times people from China, or hackers in America, have tried to attack in one day.
The simple point is, if you could pick up a cell phone and hack a tower, hackers on much better pcs would have a party with them.
What Apple isn't telling you is that with a jailbroken Iphone you can do MMS and tether your iphone. You can do the things At&t won't let you do, and it would cost At&t money.
One other thing to mention is that hackers are USUALLY cyber criminals. What I mean is, their 'business' is in online crime. Hackers are usually trying to steal important data. It would be highly counter productive for hackers to destroy the internet, which they would do for the local area receiving data from that cell tower.
One final thing: If it was easy to bust into one of at&t's cell towers, then it wouldn't matter if it's a jailbroken Iphone or not because the security is not tight at all if it allows any cell phone to hack into it.
If that was the case, then at&t cell towers need to be fixed, not the iphone itself.
just looks like grasping at straws to keep a monopoly to me..
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just looks like grasping at straws to keep a monopoly to me..
You hit the nail on the head.
Jailbreaking allows:
MMS, which the Iphone 3.0 software can do but at&t won't add it;
Tethering, which can be done but at&t wants you pay $50 extra;
flash, which would let you play games with the same quality as the App Store and hurt sales;
more codecs for music and movies, so you won't have to buy from the movie store.
All of this would lower profits from both at&t and apple.
It's hilarious that people will go bonkers over a free browser market, calling it a 'monopoly', yet ignore real monopolies like this.
What Apple isn't telling you is that with a jailbroken Iphone you can do MMS and tether your iphone. You can do the things At&t won't let you do, and it would cost At&t money.
OFF TOPIC, but have to put in my two cents
You can also do these things without jailbreaking your phone.
Spoiler:
BenM.at has downloads that work very well. I have been using them myself.
I am paying the same fee that other ATT smart phones pay to use MMS and the iPhone is capable of MMS. Why should I be restricted from MMS because ATT does not one one particular model doing it? If I got an WM or Blackberry phone through ATT, I would still pay the $30 fee and I would be able to send a friggen picture through text.
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There are 10 types of people, those who know how to count in base 2 and those who don't.
And they very well could be correct. It's my understanding that alot of the free apps made for jailbroken phones basically come from torrent sites. The files could be hidden with any sort of code and the user would never know...
Anyone with an Apple Laptop (or a Windows Laptop) can do the same thing.
Maybe we should call for the ban on computers as well.
While I think their argument is silly, they are not arguing that Jailbreaking be made illegal, they are actually arguing that Jailbreaking not be made legal or allowed as an exemption under the DMCA. Currently Jailbreaking is illegal right now (in Apple's opinion anyway.)
Now, since it is still possible to jailbreak, regardless of its legal status, it is pretty silly to think some hacking criminal who already breaks laws will care about that. In my mind, if the phone is as dangerous as apple calims, they should never be allowed to sell such a device due to teh nefarious purposes it could be put to.
If Jailbreaking is allowed, it will only mean that regular joes that have no desire to hack anything would do it rather than the tech savvy and black hats that are the only ones doing it now.
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